Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Mar·ket·ing [mahr-ki-ting]

I just received my ARC of Soul Song by Marjorie M. Liu. With the book, Dorchester Publishing included a letter bulleting some things I, as the reader, can do to generate buzz for this book. The marketer in me is tempted to frame the letter. As proof that some in this business do in fact have a clue.

I love to read. When I read a great book, I like to tell any and everyone who will listen. When someone else reads a great book, I dutifully note title and author on my TBR list. Combined, that is pretty much the extent of my involvement in the world—on and offline—of romance fiction.

Beyond that, I’m a bump on a log. I often fail to thank other readers for their recs, rarely pen a thank you email to an author and sometimes forget to acknowledge comments left on our own blog. I also tend to ignore any trigger of my only hot button, the marketing of good books.

But not today. Between the arrival of Liu’s book (part of a marketing campaign I volunteered for) and a conversation I had with Anne this morning, I decided I had something to say—or rather, to ask—in this forum.

Am I the only one who sees this particular blogging community, diverse as it is, as a potential marketing tool for the promotion of romance fiction? Or am I way off base, trying to attach misplaced significance to what is essentially a social gathering place?

Pushing the marketing point:

From an author’s perspective, I can’t say for sure. While I’ve seen deliberate marketing attempts to generate blogger word of mouth for an author’s books, I’ve not been privy to their results. I have no idea whether those efforts positively impacted book sales. Dorchester’s decision to target bloggers for promotion of Soul Song suggests that we can.

From a reader’s point of view, my answer is an unequivocal yes. When a reader review or book mention captures my attention, I immediately toggle to my library’s online reservation system, Amazon.com or my handy TBR spreadsheet. Then, I go and read the book(s). Without exaggeration, I can say that 80% of my annual reads are the direct result of those reviews and mentions, accounting for far more of my reads than coming soon lists, the RT magazine or author email bulletins. And when one of those books inspires me, I in turn blog up a review, spinning the cycle again.

Do we (readers who blog) impact book sales? Again, there do not appear to be any numbers to either support or deny the assertion that we do. I just know that I buy books based on recommendations here. Proof enough for me.

Now granted, as a reader, I have no desire to be used as a marketing tool. I’ve blogged before about my general resistance to unsolicited attempts on the part of authors to get me to review their books. Nor do I think that bloggers should temper their reviews or chat to accommodate or appease authors or publishers. Talking books is our pastime, not our job.

I do however have to wonder at author behavior—the kind of behavior that reveals total disregard for marketing potential. This blogging community fosters relationships, true. And one consequence of those relationships is the desire to come to the defense of others, regardless of the potential for negative exposure. But where I can tolerate most of the diverse, often tangent, arguments taken by readers, I can’t at all fathom those initiated by authors, publishers, trade pubs, etc.

I don’t need to provide you a list of these instances. I will however speak to the one directly involving Anne. Cuz yeah, we enjoy a friendship and I’m compelled to come to her defense. When Anne posted of the good time she had at Lori Foster’s event in June, she spoke of a good time with only one sour moment—being snubbed by an author at the signing. No names to spark the flames. No overt connection between the snub and the actual event itself. Just a simple recap of her trip—a good time save that one moment. She has since heard from event organizers as well as other bloggers. Seems her post was misconstrued as unfavorable press for the Foster event. Its organizers responded privately--with both class and venom. Anne swallowed the venom, acknowledged the misunderstanding and immediately posted clarification, assuring readers that that one moment in no way reflected on the event as a whole. That should have been the end of it. Good press for the event. Mission accomplished.

Then instantly undermined when Dianne Castell took her displeasure public. Instead of accepting Anne’s (public and private) apology with grace and maturity, Castell perpetuated the misunderstanding by running her mouth at Vamps and Scamps. Neither Anne nor event host Lori Foster was aware of Castell’s escalation of the BS; another blogger brought it to Anne’s attention and she, in turn, alerted Lori. End result? Bad press for the event. And, equally important, unnecessary PR work for Lori Foster as she dialogued with both Anne and Dianne in an attempt to diffuse the situation.

So, over coffee this morning, I held Dorchester’s letter in one hand and my cell phone in the other, pressed to my ear, listening to Anne recount Castell’s bizarre behavior. Two examples—one in each hand, so to speak—one attempting to garner greater reader share for an author and the other foolishly and unnecessarily risking the reputation of a popular annual author/reader event.

Marketing venue or social gathering place? Marketing venue. I’ll stand by that assertion. This blogging community includes and caters to romance readers. Authors and other industry professionals who fail to conduct themselves professionally amidst their own target audience—regardless of the provocation—are idiots.

Note: I welcome commentary on this subject. Am desperate for it actually, because I rarely see the point drawn elsewhere. However, staying on topic, please tell me whether you think authors, publishers, etc. should have to be on guard here. I’m not looking for anyone to excuse bad author behavior; I don’t give a fuck—we’re all dealing with challenges in our personal lives. I just want to know whether my view of this blogging community is too narrow or strict as it applies to the industry professionals who venture here.

22 People Gabbed:

Anonymous said...

I've already emailed Anne about this because I had a feeling I was the author she felt snubbed her. From what she explained when she responded, that weekend she said something to me about the baby bratlet and I just walked on past.

I made my apologies off list to her and I will post her what I told her~I'm very often in my own world. When I'm preoccupied, whether it's with a book, my own thoughts, my own worries, it's worse. Sometimes I think I should carry a bell around and when people speak to me, they need to ring the bell first. I'm also not particularly social. It has nothing to do with shyness, just has to do with the fact that I rarely feel like dealing with the niceties that come with being social. So I very much tend to keep to myself or to those who know me enough to know that I'm fairly blunt.

I don't remember meeting Anne. Everywhere I turned people were commenting about the baby bratlet, and I think she's adorable so I love when people are of a similiar mind. I love compliments about my kids and I'll talk about them with just about anybody that will listen.

Aside from them, though, I'm not particularly social.

I wouldn't ever intentionally snub a reader. Does that mean that I'm not putting any faith in what Anne says happened? Not at all. It happens around me, a lot. It's not intentional. I was very preoccupied that weekend. I could give a whole list of reasons why, but I'm not going to get into that. However unintentionally, I was rude. If anybody else feels that I slighted them, then please consider this an apology.

But I would ask that people leave Dianne out of this. Yes, she got upset. Lori and Dianne put a lot of work into this and she got several emails about it and apparently it was on a couple of blogs, giving some people the idea that all the authors were being rude. Dianne hated that and she voiced her opinions on it. Just as Anne is entitled to voice her opinion on her blog, then Dianne is entitled to voice her opinions on her own group.

Above and beyond all of that, Dianne has some things going on in her life right now that hopefully none of you will ever have to deal with. I won't get into that because it isn't my place, but she doesn't need people coming down on her over this. Since it was something I did that caused the whole mess, if people need to come down on somebody, then come down on me.

KateS said...

Honestly, Shiloh, I give you guts for posting this here. I think you had grace to send the e-mail to Anne.

However, I'm sorry, but Dianne brought this upon herself. She's the one who went overboard about the whole thing, while Lori handled it with class. She's the one who brought it one a whole loop of people and spoke badly about Anne and posted a private e-mail to the loop.

Luckily Anne has amazing friends everywhere who let her know what was going on.

And secondly, I'm sorry for things that aren't going well in Dianne's life, but honestly, how do you know what's going on in ANNE'S life? How do you know they aren't both dealing with personal issues? If she has personal problems, then she needs to keep them personal and not take it out on unsuspecting people for other issues. This is the public eye and she needs to understand that, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes.

The fact is that Anne handled this with class, Lori Foster handled it with class, and Dianne just flew off the damn handle.

Jennifer B. said...

Thank you for commenting Shiloh. I appreciate your input.

Being a good friend to Anne, I will tell you that her reaction or response to her exchange with you at the event remained in context both on and offline. She easily accepted that you may have been preoccupied. It pricked, and yes she mentioned it, but she moved on without hesitation and shared it as nothing more than a reader experience others can relate to. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to come down on you. Believe me, when it comes to dealing with someone who is not particularly social, Anne does very well. I'm completely socially inept (seriously) and she cares for me anyway.

As for the question at hand, given your own "brand" recognition or established reputation in this business, will you comment on how you view this online community? A voluntary meeting place wherein we should just relax and enjoy rapport and relationships--however volatile--over shared interests? Or do you come here with your author hat firmly in place--enjoying fellowship but minding your reputation? Again, given your success, I would greatly appreciate your viewpoint on this.

On the personal stuff, I'd prefer to stay on topic. Given Anne's own tragedies (the failing health of her husband; as well as her father and sister), it feels astoundingly hypocritical to compare motivations here. Suffice it to say that goodwill applies to all, Diane as much as Anne.

But for purposes of this discussion, I don't want the 'why'; just an argument for whether or not there is a 'should' in there somewhere. Previous blog discussions suggest there is, but as this kind of stuff continues, I wonder.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to respond to this in two different posts... I keep going off track.

As to how I carry myself in blogs or online in general, I'm pretty much myself, but there are some things I don't give opinions on and some discussions I steer clear of. I've stepped in it a time or two and it's easier to avoid the messes if you stay out of things.

I think readers should pretty much be able to discuss whatever they want. That said, somethings are going to spark commentary. Good, bad, both, it happens and when you blog about things, you need to prepared for it.

I wouldn't tell another author how to conduct themselves online, but in general, my advice would be retty much if you can't say something nice, ignore it if you can. If you can't, then try to be diplomatic in however you respond. Not because I don't think authors are entitled to their opinions, but too often, it spins out of control.

It's not always easy getting your point across on line, and it's all too easy to hurt somebody's feelings or piss them off. In my personal life, I don't generally worry about pissing somebody off. I don't like to think I've hurt somebody's feeling inadvertently. In my professional life, I try to avoid doing both if possible.

But that is just me.

Jennifer B. said...

"It's not always easy getting your point across on line,"

Critical and relevant point here. I think everyone suffers in the translation at one time or another.

And thank you for sharing your own approach to the online community.

Anonymous said...

I think this points to the reason why the romance community is looked down upon. The Romance community wants to be taken serioulsy and professionally. Then you have women act very unprofessionally, and excuse it by "things are going on in my personal life and I am stressed". Get a grip. This is a business and people should act professionally.

Anonymous said...

Sorry about the spelling of seriously.

Anonymous said...

I totally forgot that I meant to do a second post.

I know my own personal experiences and from my job, when there is a huge thing going wrong in your life, sometimes it's easier to focus on the small ones. I do it all the time. And when I say focus....I obsess. Two years ago, I miscarried and for months after, I let the littlest things interfere and I would concentrate on them. It was easier to do that than fall apart. I saved the falling apart until some time had passed because by then, I was coping better. That's just me, but I don't think it's an unusual coping mechanism.

I realize that Anne felt slighted. I'm sorry for it. I don't know if I would feel the same if something similiar happened to me-I just can't say. My general outlook when it comes to people who do snub me, and it's happened a lot, but my outlook is just screw them. Because I tend to get so preoccupied and off in my own little world, though, I'm aware that sometimes others have the same deal going and I try not to worry about it.

But I would like people to try and see this from Dianne's side. This isn't just Lori's event~Lori and Dianne both sponsor it, they both work their tails off and then something comes up that does make the event look bad. Dianne had no idea who the person was, since my name wasn't mentioned. I understand Anne not wanting to cause a controversy, but too often, as evidenced here, the controversy happens anyway. But the way some people responded offline and on the blog it had many people thinking that all the authors were acting awful. Anne addressed it.

On the flip side, Dianne also had something she wanted to address.

Whether or not we agree with both of them, either of them, or neither, they both had justifiable issues. Anne, for thinking I had been snubbing her and Dianne for feeling that the entire event was being maligned for something I inadvertently did.

I would still ask that people just leave Dianne out of it. Jennifer and Kate, you are good friends with Anne. Likewise, I'm good friends with Dianne. She's one of the sweetest, kindest people I've ever met in my life and she's dealing with things that I'm not sure I could handle.

She might have stepped on some toes, but there's not one of us who can say we haven't ever done that.

Linda said...

Wow, this covers so many issues. First, let me say big congrats Jennifer on getting Liu's arc. Lucky, lucky girl. :-)

Re marketing on line. Yes, I think reviews like ours make a difference. I don't think you can count the impact by the number of comments. There are a lot of lurkers out there. I pay very close attention to what you, Lori and Anne like. When Sarah recommends a book, I'm on it. IF it's a genre I enjoy. You trash a book, I'm not giving it a second thought. I've learned to trust your taste.

It truly boggles my mind just how far reaching our community is, witness how far Anne's brouhaha has traveled. Someone interprets what they've read and rather than quoting the author, re-writes it in their own words. Gossip is like that apparently, even when all the words are printed.

Gentle piece of advice to Shiloh. Knowing that a reader/writer weekend is a marketing opportunity, it would be best to keep your mind on the job. If you're not good in these situations, wouldn't it be better not to attend them? Or, here's an idea, get a minder or two. A couple of fans who would like nothing more than to hang with you for the whole weekend could be as effective as that bell you mentioned. :-) BTW, your baby was precious.

Sigh. I feel like I'm tip-toeing through a minefield here. Softly, softly.

Anonymous said...

Gentle piece of advice to Shiloh. Knowing that a reader/writer weekend is a marketing opportunity, it would be best to keep your mind on the job.

It's easier said than done, unless I want to use Ritalin...and I don't. Some of what was on my mind concerned one of my children, so the job isn't going to come before that.

A few people have commented on the fact that authors aren't extroverts by nature so hopefully people will keep that in mind and try to understand that a lot of writers have to work at being social. Some are better at it and some, like me, suck at it.

and thank you... I think the baby bratlet is pretty much perfect.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised by Ms. Castell's behavior. As a professional, she should have kept it on a professional level rather than making it personal.

It's been my experience that reader/author conferences are there to interact with the readers so wouldn't it be best to put your personal issues aside and go to the conference in a professional manner and in a manner you'd want the readers to remember you by? Not sure how snubbing readers gets authors anything but a bad reputation, intentional or not. If your head is not in the game (reader or author), you shouldn't be there because as the old saying goes, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

Jennifer B. said...

Thanks Shiloh, Kate and Anon. I appreciate your comments. And thank you Linda for bringing out the points about book signings. Nicely done. And don't you have to 'catch up' to Soul Song? Hmmmm? *g*

And thanks my friend, for letting me essentially vent on your behalf. We talk so much about taking the high road and, even though you did here, you still allowed me to barrel down the low one.

I should be honest and say that I had little in the way of expectations for this post. We delved further into this particular misstep, acknowledged that professionalism should guide author/etc. action and civilly agreed, with kind words, that it is all best if we put it behind us. It played out exactly as it has elsewhere with perhaps fewer profanities. Not a bad thing at all.

But I guarantee that it will only be a matter of days before my eyes cross again, unable to focus between authors or publishers who want to sell books and those who clearly don't. Sigh. I'll just have to seek some other means to emulate James Carville's relentless mantra of "The economy, stupid."

I'm off to think of something clever...in anticipation.

Anne said...

And thanks my friend, for letting me essentially vent on your behalf. We talk so much about taking the high road and, even though you did here, you still allowed me to barrel down the low one.

You never travel down the low road, Jen. You always travel in class and always with style. Thank you for defending my honor. *G*

Reading all these posts reminds me of three things: (1)A person's professional and personal life are two separate entities and should be kept that way; (2)Never post anything anywhere that you don't want to be found and/or repeated; and (3) When going to a conference and I have things on my mind distracting me, I will stay in the room until I am focused enough to participate with a clear head because I agree with Anonymous... you never get a second chance to make a first impression

Hugs all!

Anonymous said...

An editor once told me of an author at their house (no name given) who they preferred not do booksignings or book tours. Her books did better when she stayed at home.

Sometimes, as authors, we're pressed to do things that work against us. Why do it? At some point, we have to play to our strengths and not keep putting ourselves in bad places. We each have to answer the question for ourself: How is my time best spent? The answer may not be the same for everybody.

Jennifer B. said...

Can't resist your point Anon---Time best spent? From a reader's point of view. WRITING! LOL Hands down.

Lori Foster said...

Wow, lots of great posts, and a few scary ones.
Would it be okay if I weighed in on the topic? I don't want anyone to think I'm here to defend or chastise. I'm not. I'm just drawn to give an opinion, like the rest of you.

Promotion... I've always found readers to be smart, and pushy-promotion of any kind seems a turn-off. So I don't really promote. I just share what I have, no pressure, and let readers do with it what they will. I offer bookmarks, and cover flats, and arcs (when I have them) and I LOVE interracting with readers and other authors.
I talk (type?) and ask others to join me.
I've always welcomed other authors to my outlets. I feel absolutely no competition.
I've had few rules to my outlets - anything goes, as long as it isn't potentially offense to the other members.
No author or reader bashing, for any reason. That, imo, should be kept to private emails, and not cyberspace. But remember, this is for my own private outlets.

I was a complete introvert for most of my life. I had no peer group, and didn't want one.
All in all, I was a VERY odd child.

It wasn't until I found writing, and later publication, that I found I had anything in common with other women. Prior to that, I hung with guys because I found them easier to deal with. I guess that reflects in my books, since the focus is usually more on the hero than the heroine.

Now I guess I'm an extrovert, which is shocking to anyone who knew me pre-writing. LOL. I just LUV to gab with anyone, about just about anything. Yeah, I'm a Scorpio, and real opinionated.

I love posting on my two myspace sites, and on my message board, and at my Quill blog. I belong to two email loops, one mine, and one for my local chapter.
More often than not the posts are of a personal nature because I'm not super-human enough to separate me the mom, friend, wife, sister, from me the writer.
I'm just me, all of those things, no better or worse than anyone else.

However, as I've matured (hey, I'm nearing 50, and there's a world of difference between 30 and 50) I've learned that it's pretty easy to say "I'm sorry" even if I don't feel wrong, if it will keep the peace. It's pretty easy to reach out to others to smooth the waters.
It's very easy, having had some trials in my life, to assume that others are having them too, and perhaps aren't on their best game.
We're all human, writers and readers alike. We're all prone to mistakes. We're all open to hurt feelings and loses of temper.

Who here hasn't posted something she later regreted? Or been hurt by something that was posted? Or in general, made a mistake in judgement? I know I have, more times than I care to admit.

I dunno... I just love people. I see more good than bad, so it's easy to overlook the "bad." Anne has been incredibly wonderful. Shiloh is a very nice person. Dianne has the most generous heart.
But none of us are perfect, and at any given time, one of us might be the person erring, and the other could be the person hurt.

I once had a "friend" accidentally send me a nasty post - about me - that she meant to send to someone else. (I laugh when I remember it!)

She was devastated.

I wasn't. We all talk with our friends, we *have* to vent on occasion, and that's what she'd meant to do. I honestly had no problem pretendning it had never happened.

Overall, I have far bigger fish to fry than a simple blog that got blown out of proportion in a big way.

So to sum up (geez, I AM gabby this morning, huh?) I think the internet is one way of marketing, but other than leaving myself available to people, I don't really use it promote.
I thing authors have as much right to opinions as readers, because when it comes down to it, we're all just human and I defy anyone to totally separate herself, 100% of the time, from her career and her life.
Overall I'd say that NO ONE should ever bad mouth someone else, but hey, it happens, and when it does, you can either keep it going, letting negativity take over your life or, like a 50 year old grandma with a full plate,(LOL) you can say screw it and focus on all the good in your life.

But if you don't say screw it, I wouldn't hold that against you, because 10 years ago, I couldn't have done that either.

I honestly wish my best to everyone. Especially after hearing that Anne has so much going on in her life, too. I'm so sorry.

Lori (who hopes no one will check me on typos!)

Anne said...

Just as I had known before, Lori Foster, you are a class act.

I, too, hold no grudges toward anyone. It takes up way too much energy, and I need to focus that elsewhere.

So if anyone was hoping for me to blow my top and go off on people(taking the low road), it's not going to happen. I am not pleased with the happenings, but I'm a bit unphased as this seems to be the norm online and in real life for some. *shrug*

Jennifer B. said...

Thank you Lori! Your take on this online community is exactly what I was looking for! A bit disappointing for me, but not for reasons you might think. When I find a book that moves me--one that evokes emotion, fear, anticipation, laughter...any sensory reaction really--I want more. Typical reader reaction. Instead of seeking access to the author however, I'm driven to find more books by that author. I've learned however, that this business does not always serve MY interests. LOL IOW, if others have not discovered that author--either through buzz or on the shelf at Walmart--there is always the possibility that new book contracts won't materialize. Devastating if I'm hooked enough to put the author on an autobuy list for myself. So, my natural reaction is to seek ways to spread word of mouth my damn self. And try as I might, I've not been able to squeeze any more legitimate exposure for a fave author out of this community beyond posting a review on our blog. Not much support for my argument that we can used as an effective marketing tool.

You are absolutely dead on. This is a community of women with shared interests. And among the relationships we build, attempts to promote any single author or book are not appropriate. I myself resist such efforts on the part of others. I'd do well to lose my own hypocrisy and just relax and enjoy the banter. Publishers and authors will promote their work and my own responsibility or ability will remain limited to chatting up good books on my blog. Someone needed to call me out on that and you just did. Perfectly. *g*

Amie Stuart said...

Anne it seems to me that Jennifer and Lori aren't the only classy ones here =)

Anne said...

I've never seen anything hypocritical of you, Jen... ever. You're a gem!

Amie- THANK YOU. Sniffle. :-)

Lori said...

Who here hasn't posted something she later regreted? Or been hurt by something that was posted? Or in general, made a mistake in judgement? I know I have, more times than I care to admit.
If that isn't the truth, I don't know what is. I try very hard to stay out of all of these (to use Linda's excellent word) brouhahas. My gut instinct is to rush to my good friend Anne's defense and say HEY - how dare anybody "snub" her? But as a self-admitted shy bird who is likely to stay in the corner and never speak until spoken to, and even then I'm painfully shy (who'da thunk it?), I can definitely see both sides here. And as it seems that all the correct apologies have been given and accepted privately, which seems to be the approriate place for them, then the high road is the place to go. And I agree with Anne, Jen - you never go anywhere but there. For even in your vision of the "low road", you brought out a tasteful, thoughtful discussion and everybody stayed on topic, keeping their thoughts and opinions polite and on the high road. Mission accomplished.

Lori Foster said...

Oh Jennifer! If I "called you out" on anything, it was unintentional in the extreme! Hon, the only person I police is myself. LOL And that's work enough for a mob. ;-)

I think it's WONDERFUL if readers talk up books! When I said the best way to promote is to not promote, I spoke strictly as an author touting her own work, NOT as a reader. Heck, I just finished Elizabeth Lowell's Innocent as Sin and I've been shouting to anyone who'll listen about its shining brilliance. ;-)

I meant to say earlier, too, that (again, only from my limited perspective) the best way for a reader to help an author is to post online reviews at Amazon and BN.com
If the review is positive, all the better. LOL

This is a nice blog filled with nice people, readers and authors alike. I'll try to visit more often.

Hugs!

Lori